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--- clones:d:dafq [2026/01/06 02:53] – [Dafq] capslock
+++ clones:d:dafq [2026/08/24 00:03] (current) – vaugith
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-====== Dafq ======
+====== Dafq / Cruelty / Nuestra Bonita ======
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+Photo Credit Riley Wallerstein
 ===== Description =====
-The provided text does not offer a detailed botanical description of *Trichocereus* 'Dafq'. It mentions the "mother stands" as "tallest columns" Riley Wallerstein had seen in person, suggesting a robust, columnar growth habit. Further details on rib count, spine length/color, or epidermis color are not available in this source.
+T. pachanoi cv.  Dafq aka Cruelty aka Nuestra Bonita is a single clone that was discovered by three separate people in the trichocereus community at different times and each one decided to give it a name, which all stuck and developed community usage before the connection was discovered. This incident is the primary example put forth why best labeling practices are important, and why collectors should give their best attempt to find prior names and origins before giving a found clone their own name.
-===== History & Origin =====
+It is a mostly typical presenting pachanoi - plenty of farina, shallow notching,  but has two downward spines. Riley also notes it may hold some peruvianus traits such as protruding central spines.
-The *Trichocereus* known as 'Dafq' has an origin story primarily documented by Riley Wallerstein. Riley joined the cactus community in 2018. In December 2018, he discovered the "mother stands" of this plant. The name 'Dafq' was attributed to Jordan Nash, who named it after his art tag. Jordan Nash reportedly received his initial cuts from a Craigslist seller who possessed large stands of the plant.
-Initially, Riley believed the Craigslist seller's plants and the mother stands he found were distinct due to their differing locations. However, the community later learned that the large stands owned by the Craigslist seller (which supplied Taj, Jordan, and others) originated from the same location as the actual mother plants Riley discovered.
+===== History & Origin =====
+The *Trichocereus* known as 'Dafq' has an origin story primarily documented by Riley Wallerstein. Riley joined the cactus community in 2018 after a visit to Taj Chaffins garden, where he saw this plant labeled Cruelty. In December 2018 Riley discovered a large pachanoi stand and posted photos to the Facebook community. Jordan Nash responded and mentioned he owned cuts of that stand and used the name 'Dafq' who named it after his art tag. Jordan Nash reportedly received his initial cuts from a Craigslist seller who also possessed large stands of the plant. Riley also decided to give his cut a name when he started distributing it.
-Riley found one of these mother stands fallen over and was permitted to keep the stump. He states that the property owner where the mother stands are located moved there approximately 25 years prior to Riley's 2021 post (circa 1996). At that time, the plant was already 6-7 feet tall. For the past 25 years, the property owner has been consistently chopping and discarding cuts down a hillside, effectively creating a "hillside of this pach."
+Initially, Riley believed the Craigslist seller's plants and the stands he found were distinct due to their differing locations. Riley also expresses how naive he was about clone naming conventions due to how fresh he was to the community. However, the community later learned that the large stands owned by the Craigslist seller (which supplied Taj, Jordan, and others) originated from the same location as the mother plants Riley discovered. Riley found one of these stands fallen over and was permitted to keep the stump. He states that the property owner where the stands are located moved there approximately 25 years prior to Riley's 2021 post (circa 1996). At that time, the plant was already 6-7 feet tall. For the past 25 years, the property owner has been consistently chopping and discarding cuts down a hillside, effectively creating a "hillside of this pach."
 ===== Cultivation Notes =====
-The provided text does not contain specific cultivation advice for *Trichocereus* 'Dafq'.
 ===== Community Discussion & Citations =====