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 * **Identification**: If attempting to verify the clone's identity, growers are advised to observe shade-grown offsets, as hard-grown specimens can easily be mistaken for other heavily-spined Trichocereus species. * **Identification**: If attempting to verify the clone's identity, growers are advised to observe shade-grown offsets, as hard-grown specimens can easily be mistaken for other heavily-spined Trichocereus species.
  
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 ===== Community Discussion & Citations ===== ===== Community Discussion & Citations =====
 The discussion highlights the common issue of duplicate naming within the Trichocereus community. While some skepticism exists regarding the clone's novelty—with suggestions that it is merely a renamed NOID—the primary source provides a clear provenance tracing back to a West LA collection. The discussion highlights the common issue of duplicate naming within the Trichocereus community. While some skepticism exists regarding the clone's novelty—with suggestions that it is merely a renamed NOID—the primary source provides a clear provenance tracing back to a West LA collection.
  
-^ Date ^ Speaker ^ Confidence Score ^ Key Insight/Quote ^ +^ Date ^ Speaker ^ Key Insight/Quote ^ 
-| 2024 (approx) | Jackson Marchant | 9 | "I discovered "hellraiser" in California from a guy who was moving away from West LA and gave me all of it. The specimens I got had nasty looking thick spines , and multiple community OGs couldn't identify until it was shade grown by Shannon Edwards. Most people thought hellraiser was Cuzco until Shannon grew it. I gave away all of the Hellraiser and named it that because of the heavy spines. Hard grown hellraiser looks quite different from your standard Bridgesii." | +| 2024 (approx) | Jackson Marchant | "I discovered "hellraiser" in California from a guy who was moving away from West LA and gave me all of it. The specimens I got had nasty looking thick spines , and multiple community OGs couldn't identify until it was shade grown by Shannon Edwards. Most people thought hellraiser was Cuzco until Shannon grew it. I gave away all of the Hellraiser and named it that because of the heavy spines. Hard grown hellraiser looks quite different from your standard Bridgesii." | 
-| 2024 (approx) | James Buchanan | 7 | "I wouldn't have named it that if I knew but I did ask The Trichocereus Community group and nobody said anything... Looks like there's an Australia clone named Hellraiser too 😂" |+| 2024 (approx) | James Buchanan | "I wouldn't have named it that if I knew but I did ask The Trichocereus Community group and nobody said anything... Looks like there's an Australia clone named Hellraiser too 😂" | 
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 +===== Contributor Confidence ===== 
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 +^ Contributor ^ Confidence ^ 
 +| Jackson Marchant | 9/10 | 
 +| James Buchanan | 7/10 | 
  
 ===== Credibility Notes ===== ===== Credibility Notes =====
-* **Jackson Marchant (9/10)**: Marchant is the primary source who discovered, named, and distributed the US "Hellraiser" clone. His detailed account of its provenance, naming origin, and morphological changes under different growing conditions provides the foundational history for this clone. +* **Jackson Marchant**: Marchant is the primary source who discovered, named, and distributed the US "Hellraiser" clone. His detailed account of its provenance, naming origin, and morphological changes under different growing conditions provides the foundational history for this clone. 
-* **James Buchanan (7/10)**: Buchanan provides valuable context regarding the naming conflict and the existence of a secondary Australian clone, openly admitting to the accidental duplicate naming.+* **James Buchanan**: Buchanan provides valuable context regarding the naming conflict and the existence of a secondary Australian clone, openly admitting to the accidental duplicate naming. 
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