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| > ⚙️ **Auto-generated, pending human review.** This page was compiled automatically by a bot from community discussions and has **not yet been verified by an editor**; details may be imperfect and corrections are welcome. //Editors: delete this line once you have reviewed the page.// | ====== Ikaros DNA ====== |
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| ===== Description ===== | ===== Description ===== |
| "Icaros" (more recently spelled "Ikaros" or "IkarosDNA") is not a single clone, but rather a highly regarded seedline of Peruvian *Trichocereus* (often classified under *Trichocereus peruvianus* or related intermediate forms). Because it is distributed as open-pollinated seed collected from wild stands, individual specimens exhibit significant phenotypic variation. | "Icaros", aka "Ikaros" or "IkarosDNA" is not a single clone, but rather a Nativar of //Trichocereus peruvianus//. A Nativar is a group of plants that exist in a close range in habitat that have interbred and adapted to their local conditions together. While they have unique genetics, they do generally exhibit many of the same traits. |
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| Generally, plants grown from this seedline present a classic Peruvian blue-green to glaucous green epidermis. They are noted for growing into fat, girthy, and beautiful blue specimens. Rib count typically ranges from 6 to 9, with prominent, well-defined ribs. Areoles are rounded and can vary from light grey to brown felted. Spination is highly variable depending on the specific pollination event, ranging from short, honey-colored spines to long, stout, dark brown or grey spines. Variegated mutations have also been documented and selected from these seed batches. | Generally, plants grown from this seedline present classic Matucana region traits including blue farina, fat and girthy columns, brightly colored spines, rib count from 6 to 9, and some variation in depth of notches. Areoles are rounded and can vary from light grey to brown felted. Spination is highly variable depending on the specific pollination event, ranging from short, honey-colored spines to long, stout, dark brown or grey spines. Variegated mutations have also been documented and selected from these seed batches. |
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| ===== History & Origin ===== | ===== History & Origin ===== |
| The seeds are sourced and distributed by a provider named Julio (via the website ikarosdna.com), who harvests them from wild mother stands located in a specific valley in the Matucana region near Huarochiri in Peru. The spelling of the name was officially transitioned from "IcarosDNA" to "IkarosDNA" by the distributor around 2023 (approx). This spelling change is suspected to align with the Quechua language, which uses "K" instead of a solitary "C" (where an "ikaro" refers to a traditional healing song). | The seeds are sourced and distributed by a provider named Julio (via local resellers), who harvests them from a specific set of wild mother stands located in a specific valley in the Matucana region near Huarochiri in Peru. Due to the open-pollinated nature of the wild mother stands, the genetic makeup of the seeds varies from season to season depending on which plants contribute pollen. |
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| Due to the open-pollinated nature of the wild mother stands, the genetic makeup of the seeds varies from season to season depending on which paternal plants contribute pollen. Several well-known names in the *Trichocereus* community are selections or distributions of this same genetic group, including "Los Gentiles," "Verne's Wild Andes," and the accession number "BK08612.4." | The spelling of the name was officially transitioned from "Icaros" or "IcarosDNA" to "IkarosDNA" by the distributor around 2023 (approx). This spelling change is suspected to align with the Quechua language, which uses "K" instead of a solitary "C". An "ikaro" is a traditional healing song often sang or played during ceremonies. |
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| Highly sought-after named clones have been selected from these seed batches, such as "Althea" and "SWIM." While some community members have speculated that the famous clone "Sharxx" (or "Sharxx Blue") is also an Icaros selection, historical records indicate that Sharxx originated from the Dawson farm in Central Victoria, Australia, prior to Julio distributing seeds under the Icaros name. However, it is considered highly likely that Sharxx shares regional genetics, originating from the same geographic area in Peru. | Several well-known names in the //Trichocereus// community are selections or distributions of this same genetic group, including "Los Gentiles," "Verne's Wild Andes," and the accession number "BK08612.4." Highly sought-after named clones have been selected from these seed batches, such as "Althea" and "SWIM." While some community members have speculated that the famous clone "Sharxx" (or "Sharxx Blue") is also an Icaros selection, historical records indicate that Sharxx originated from the Dawson farm in Central Victoria, Australia, prior to Julio distributing seeds under the Icaros name. However, it is considered highly likely that Sharxx shares regional genetics, originating from the same Matucana region in Peru. |
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| ===== Cultivation Notes ===== | |
| As with most high-altitude Andean *Trichocereus* species, specimens from the Icaros seedline prefer a gritty, well-draining soil mix to prevent root rot. They benefit from deep watering during the active growing season, allowed to dry out completely between waterings. They thrive in full sun to light dappled shade, which helps bring out their characteristic glaucous blue coloration. Variegated specimens are more sensitive to intense sunlight and should be acclimated carefully to prevent sunburn on the chlorophyll-deficient tissues. | |
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| ===== Community Discussion & Citations ===== | ===== Community Discussion & Citations ===== |
| //Analysis of the discussion.// | //Analysis of the discussion.// |
| | 2025 (approx) | Andrew Vaught | "No, Sharxx is not IcarosDNA seed. Sharxx came from the Dawson farm in Central Victoria, Australia, which originated from long before Julio started selling seeds under the icaros name. However, its very likely that Sharxx is a seed grown plant and that those seeds likely came from the same region that Julio collects seeds from." | | | 2025 (approx) | Andrew Vaught | "No, Sharxx is not IcarosDNA seed. Sharxx came from the Dawson farm in Central Victoria, Australia, which originated from long before Julio started selling seeds under the icaros name. However, its very likely that Sharxx is a seed grown plant and that those seeds likely came from the same region that Julio collects seeds from." | |
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| ===== Contributor Confidence ===== | ===== Contributor Confidence ===== |
| //Visible to trusted reviewers only.// | //Visible to trusted reviewers only.// |
| | Nat McDonald | 7/10 | | | Nat McDonald | 7/10 | |
| | Andrew Vaught | 8/10 | | | Andrew Vaught | 8/10 | |
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| ===== Credibility Notes ===== | ===== Credibility Notes ===== |
| * **Lawrence Smith** (10/10): Designated community expert; provided confirmation regarding the connection between Verne's Wild Andes and Icaros/IkarosDNA. | * **Lawrence Smith**: Designated community expert; provided confirmation regarding the connection between Verne's Wild Andes and Icaros/IkarosDNA. |
| * **Bob Baker** (10/10): Designated community expert; provided botanical context on genetic and alkaloidal variation in seed-grown specimens. | * **Bob Baker**: Designated community expert; provided botanical context on genetic and alkaloidal variation in seed-grown specimens. |
| * **James Buchanan** (9/10): Provided highly detailed, consistent information regarding the distributor (Julio), the geographical origin of the mother stands, the open-pollinated nature of the seeds, the spelling change, and the historical connection to "Verne's Wild Andes" and "Los Gentiles." | * **James Buchanan**: Provided highly detailed, consistent information regarding the distributor (Julio), the geographical origin of the mother stands, the open-pollinated nature of the seeds, the spelling change, and the historical connection to "Verne's Wild Andes" and "Los Gentiles." |
| * **Michael Dee** (8/10): Offered specific insights into the accession numbering system (BK08612.4) and how it relates to habitat documentation. | * **Michael Dee**: Offered specific insights into the accession numbering system (BK08612.4) and how it relates to habitat documentation. |
| * **Nicholas Megargel** (8/10): Provided detailed explanations of the seedline's phenotypic variation, its origin in the Matucana region, and its relation to named selections like Althea. | * **Nicholas Megargel**: Provided detailed explanations of the seedline's phenotypic variation, its origin in the Matucana region, and its relation to named selections like Althea. |
| * **Christopher Mills** (8/10): Provided specific geographical details locating the seed collection in the Matucana region near Huarochiri, Peru. | * **Christopher Mills**: Provided specific geographical details locating the seed collection in the Matucana region near Huarochiri, Peru. |
| * **Andrew Vaught** (8/10): Provided clear, historically accurate clarification regarding the Australian origin of the "Sharxx" clone, correcting a common community misconception. | * **Andrew Vaught**: Provided clear, historically accurate clarification regarding the Australian origin of the "Sharxx" clone, correcting a common community misconception. |
| * **Chris Hughes** (7/10): Provided plausible linguistic context regarding the Quechua language and the cultural meaning of the word "ikaro" (healing song) to explain the spelling change. | * **Chris Hughes**: Provided plausible linguistic context regarding the Quechua language and the cultural meaning of the word "ikaro" (healing song) to explain the spelling change. |
| * **Nat McDonald** (7/10): Confirmed the collection details (Julio, Matucana) and general phenotype. | * **Nat McDonald**: Confirmed the collection details (Julio, Matucana) and general phenotype. |
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