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 As a suspected *Trichocereus bridgesii*, MM should be grown in a highly gritty, well-draining soil mix (typically 50-70% inorganic material like pumice or perlite). It prefers deep, infrequent watering during the active growing season and should be kept completely dry and cool during winter dormancy. It is sensitive to humid conditions and excessive moisture, which can cause black humidity spots. Cultivators report that it is an exceptionally vigorous grower ("grows like a champ") once established. As a suspected *Trichocereus bridgesii*, MM should be grown in a highly gritty, well-draining soil mix (typically 50-70% inorganic material like pumice or perlite). It prefers deep, infrequent watering during the active growing season and should be kept completely dry and cool during winter dormancy. It is sensitive to humid conditions and excessive moisture, which can cause black humidity spots. Cultivators report that it is an exceptionally vigorous grower ("grows like a champ") once established.
  
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 ===== Community Discussion & Citations ===== ===== Community Discussion & Citations =====
 //Analysis of the discussion.// //Analysis of the discussion.//
 The community discussion surrounding MM is divided between its identity as Misplant's "Medicine Man" and its potential identity as the "Moran" clone (which is closely linked to "Tammy"). While some hobbyists express fatigue over the naming ambiguity and dismiss it as typical marketing mystique surrounding a bridgesii clone, others trace its provenance to David Gonzalez in the US. Meanwhile, historical accounts from Byron Fan and Felix Figueroa clarify the origin of the Tammy/Moran line, which was salvaged from a trailer park and widely distributed for free in Northern California. The community discussion surrounding MM is divided between its identity as Misplant's "Medicine Man" and its potential identity as the "Moran" clone (which is closely linked to "Tammy"). While some hobbyists express fatigue over the naming ambiguity and dismiss it as typical marketing mystique surrounding a bridgesii clone, others trace its provenance to David Gonzalez in the US. Meanwhile, historical accounts from Byron Fan and Felix Figueroa clarify the origin of the Tammy/Moran line, which was salvaged from a trailer park and widely distributed for free in Northern California.
  
-^ Date ^ Speaker ^ Confidence Score ^ Key Insight/Quote ^ +^ Date ^ Speaker ^ Key Insight/Quote ^ 
-| 2022 (approx) | Byron Fan | 8 | "Will and I found it at a trailer park. The new owners of a particular unit wanted all the in ground cacti gone, so we removed what we could. Tammy was named after the new owner of the unit" | +| 2022 (approx) | Byron Fan | "Will and I found it at a trailer park. The new owners of a particular unit wanted all the in ground cacti gone, so we removed what we could. Tammy was named after the new owner of the unit" | 
-| 2022 (approx) | Felix Figueroa | 7 | "After Will and Byron saved this plant.. Will drove all over NorCal giving literal truck loads away for free making sure it got to folks who would continue propagating it and then sell/trade/gift it so it would be available to the community." | +| 2022 (approx) | Felix Figueroa | "After Will and Byron saved this plant.. Will drove all over NorCal giving literal truck loads away for free making sure it got to folks who would continue propagating it and then sell/trade/gift it so it would be available to the community." | 
-| 2024 (approx) | David Gonzalez | 8 | "Unless there is another one I’m the person who gave it the name in the USA and have sold a few over the years." | +| 2024 (approx) | David Gonzalez | "Unless there is another one I’m the person who gave it the name in the USA and have sold a few over the years." | 
-| 2024 (approx) | Liam Leslie | 7 | "I just picked up one from David Gonzalez who might be able to share more, but I believe he was on Facebook for a bit then disappeared. It also supposedly commonly has a dumbo mutation - nice short spines too!" | +| 2024 (approx) | Liam Leslie | "I just picked up one from David Gonzalez who might be able to share more, but I believe he was on Facebook for a bit then disappeared. It also supposedly commonly has a dumbo mutation - nice short spines too!" | 
-| 2025 (approx) | Chris CactusLife | 7 | "Bob only hints at it being med man, won’t confirm or deny, but I’ve had my doubts too." | +| 2025 (approx) | Chris CactusLife | "Bob only hints at it being med man, won’t confirm or deny, but I’ve had my doubts too." | 
-| 2025 (approx) | Krüz Kalke | 7 | "Misplant consistently implies in comments in the groups that MM is the same clone as Medicine Man, but to my knowledge has never explicitly confirmed or denied it." |+| 2025 (approx) | Krüz Kalke | "Misplant consistently implies in comments in the groups that MM is the same clone as Medicine Man, but to my knowledge has never explicitly confirmed or denied it." | 
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 +===== Contributor Confidence ===== 
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 +^ Contributor ^ Confidence ^ 
 +| Byron Fan | 8/10 | 
 +| Felix Figueroa | 7/10 | 
 +| David Gonzalez | 8/10 | 
 +| Liam Leslie | 7/10 | 
 +| Chris CactusLife | 7/10 | 
 +| Krüz Kalke | 7/10 | 
  
 ===== Credibility Notes ===== ===== Credibility Notes =====
-David Gonzalez is rated 8/10 as he claims direct responsibility for naming and distributing the clone in the US. Byron Fan is rated 8/10 as a primary source who personally rescued and named the Tammy/Moran clone. Liam Leslie is rated 7/10 as a direct buyer who corroborates Gonzalez's role and provides specific morphological details. Felix Figueroa is rated 7/10 for providing detailed historical context on the distribution of the rescued clone. Chris CactusLife and Krüz Kalke are rated 7/10 because their accounts of Bob Baker's (Misplant) ambiguous communication patterns are highly consistent, reflecting a documented consensus within the community.+David Gonzalez is ratedas he claims direct responsibility for naming and distributing the clone in the US. Byron Fan is ratedas a primary source who personally rescued and named the Tammy/Moran clone. Liam Leslie is ratedas a direct buyer who corroborates Gonzalez's role and provides specific morphological details. Felix Figueroa is ratedfor providing detailed historical context on the distribution of the rescued clone. Chris CactusLife and Krüz Kalke are ratedbecause their accounts of Bob Baker's (Misplant) ambiguous communication patterns are highly consistent, reflecting a documented consensus within the community. 
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