> ⚙️ **Auto-generated, pending human review.** This page was compiled automatically by a bot from community discussions and has **not yet been verified by an editor**; details may be imperfect and corrections are welcome. //Editors: delete this line once you have reviewed the page.// ====== pach bk10805.1 ====== {{clones:p:media:pach_bk10805_1:2e2dbe6efaed7724.jpg?400}} {{clones:p:media:pach_bk10805_1:406bc0bac33202a1.jpg?400}} {{clones:p:media:pach_bk10805_1:4e82a046653ad636.jpg?400}} {{clones:p:media:pach_bk10805_1:7317e4cd7c99926c.jpg?400}} {{clones:p:media:pach_bk10805_1:8c1a7e426d277245.jpg?400}} {{clones:p:media:pach_bk10805_1:a46860251f07dd80.jpg?400}} {{clones:p:media:pach_bk10805_1:cbf8252b5c942c75.jpg?400}} ===== Description ===== Based on community observations, ''pach bk10805.1'' is a *Trichocereus* clone that superficially resembles the Predominant Cultivar (PC) but exhibits distinct morphological differences. Notably, it lacks the characteristic "sawtooth" rib profile associated with PC and features very small (tiny) areoles. There is community speculation that if a specimen of this lineage presents with a green epidermis rather than the typical glaucous blue, it may represent a natural, non-human-crossed hybrid between a limanoid *pachanoi* and a native *peruvianus*. ===== History & Origin ===== This clone is reported to be a field-collected specimen originating from Cochabamba, Bolivia, collected by Ben Kamm (BK) of Sacred Succulents. It has circulated within the collector community via Ryan Dailey, who distributed specimens to other growers, including Christopher Mills. (Note: While the community discussion also references other Ben Kamm accessions, such as the Peruvian BK08612.4 associated with the "Los Gentiles" and "IcarosDNA" lines, these represent a geographically distinct lineage from the Bolivian origin of BK10805.1.) ===== Cultivation Notes ===== While no specific cultivation requirements were detailed for this clone, it has been described by growers as an exceptionally consistent plant to work with. Standard care for Bolivian *Trichocereus pachanoi* applies: utilize a highly gritty, well-draining soil mix, provide deep watering during the active growing season allowing the medium to dry out completely between waterings, and acclimate to strong, filtered sunlight or full sun depending on regional intensity. ===== Community Discussion & Citations ===== //Analysis of the discussion.// The discussion centers on distinguishing ''pach bk10805.1'' from the common PC clone. While Christopher Mills notes a passing resemblance, John Deslippe confirms that the physical characteristics of his specimen—specifically the lack of a sawtooth profile and the presence of tiny areoles—strongly differentiate it from PC. The collection locality is identified as Cochabamba, Bolivia. The conversation also touches upon Ben Kamm's broader field collection history. Krüz Kalke suggests that green phenotypes found in these regions may be natural hybrids of limanoid *pachanoi* and native *peruvianus* that BK observed growing on the edges of properties during his travels. ^ Date ^ Speaker ^ Key Insight/Quote ^ | 2023 (approx) | Christopher Mills | "If I remember correctly that is a field collected clone from Cochabamba Bolivia. I’ve got one in my garden. Bears a resemblance to PC but I don’t think it is" | | 2023 (approx) | John Deslippe | "looking at this cut I have I would be astounded to learn it’s PC. Absolutely no sawtooth and tiny areoles." | | 2021 (approx) | Krüz Kalke | "If it's green instead of the usual blue my guess is it's one of the "natural" (that is, not human crossed) crosses between the Limanoid pachanoi and the native peruvianus." | ===== Contributor Confidence ===== //Visible to trusted reviewers only.// ^ Contributor ^ Confidence ^ | Christopher Mills | 7/10 | | John Deslippe | 7/10 | | Krüz Kalke | 8/10 | ===== Credibility Notes ===== Christopher Mills is rated aas he provides specific provenance details (Cochabamba, Bolivia) and identifies the distribution source (Ryan Dailey). John Deslippe is rated afor providing direct, firsthand morphological observations of a physical specimen in his possession, allowing for a clear botanical distinction from PC. Krüz Kalke is rated andue to his detailed historical knowledge of Ben Kamm's collection trips, specific accession numbers (such as BK08612.4), and the relationships between wild populations and commercialized seed lines.